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Lauren G. Foster (2s):
Hello, and welcome to the how to choose happiness and freedom show. I'm your host Lauren Foster Happiness teacher and founder of Be Happy First as a certified life mastery consultants, masters of wisdom and meditation teacher and primal health coach. I'm on a mission to help 1 million women learn to be Happy and Free on Purpose healthy, wealthy, and joyfully living life on your own terms Happiness is a choice and you can always choose to be happy first. Thanks so much for being here now onto today's episode.
Lauren G. Foster (37s):
Yay. I have been, I have almost lost sleep. I have been so excited and honored to have Erin Power with me. Erin thank you so much for being here.
Erin Power (46s):
Oh my pleasure. Lauren great to be here.
Lauren G. Foster (49s):
So I'm a, I am a certified primal health coach and Aaron is a central figure at primal health kids. Institute where I've got my certification. So that any time you enter into any kind of world, the primal health world, or I don't know, tarot card reading, whatever they're are gonna be a lot of different voices. So it's important to find people that you resonate with so that you've got like a touchdown. So when information gets confusing for me, I'm like, okay, what does Erin say about this?
Lauren G. Foster (1m 20s):
And I go look at our website and I go look at her stuff. And that gives me an huh. Okay. And then I did her a 30 day metabolic reboot, which I highly recommend, and that will share the links to that. And she just gave me so much clarity about things that I thought I knew and lots of new information that I didn't know. It was just, just a really, really great experience. So thank you. Erin for being here. We're so honored.
Erin Power (1m 48s):
My pleasure. Let's go. Let's do it.
Lauren G. Foster (1m 50s):
Okay. So first of all, tell us your, your store. I love your story about how you were in the fitness world and how you're really ripping apart fitness culture and demolishing things like no pain, no gain. And yeah.
Erin Power (2m 6s):
Okay. Gosh, I can talk about this for it for, for hours. And I, sometimes I do. So I'm going to apologize. I'm not going to ramble too much, but I think that there's probably going to be a little bit of maybe some recognition in this story with some people. But when I was in my twenties, everything was really easy. Like health came very easily to me as I'm sure we all know, and that's because we were 20 and you know, we're still kids, right? Our bodies are still young. I was really embroiled in the fitness industry. It was a huge part of my identity. I was a trainer in a group fitness instructor, but also I was just literally addicted to it.
Erin Power (2m 38s):
And it was, we know, looking back now, it was mad at me. It was purely for vanity purposes. It just want it to be repeated. Just want to be shredded. I want it to be muscular. I want it to be all of those things. It was important to me almost to the exclusion of everything else. Am I in my life? Which I, a lot of regret four. Now looking back now to me in my forties, I feel like I kinda of wasted those. But anyway, then I got into my thirties, mid thirties, things started, Really not working anymore. Everything I had been doing in terms of the fitness and nutrition, just eating right and exercising, stopped working.
Erin Power (3m 13s):
And I skied what I was gaining abdominal fat. And, but more importantly to me, I was absolutely losing energy. My energy was nowhere to be found. I always say that I felt like I was checked out of life. After, after a mind you, I was doing literally everything right eye. Since I was a teenager, I've been into fitness exercise, sports, nutrition, almost obsessively. Like I was never a junk food eater. I never drank big gulps. I had never ate at McDonald's. I wasn't doing any of that standard American.
Erin Power (3m 44s):
I mean the junk food diet, Western diet stuff, I was eating kind of a, we know the standard American diet, the bodybuilder type of it. So lean protein, healthy, whole grain, steam vegetables, zero fat, you know, no spices, you know, enjoyment of food out loud, just a food is fuel. And a long story short, I have stopped working. And for me, when I, when my energy tanked like that, I think I had an inner knowing that was int wasn't on here. Okay. I think sometimes we get, when we get older, we think, Oh, I'm just getting older, but I had some little voice inside of me that said, well, maybe this isn't met my, my destiny.
Erin Power (4m 21s):
Right. But it did go to my dr. Which is something that I never did, coz I'm not, I'm a sick person. It never was a sick person. That was a healthy person, went for my annual checkup. And she was going to usher me out of the room really quickly. Cause I'm medically boring. And I said, well, actually I'll have you noticed that I've gained like 30 pounds from the last year, all around my abdomen. But more importantly, I have gotten no energy. I crashed at my desk. I can stay awake ever. I'm having heart palpitations I've had and all of these symptoms. And she said, Oh, that sounds a little bit, a little bit strange.
Erin Power (4m 53s):
I'm going to send you up for some blood tests, which she did. She got her a blood test back. I was pre-diabetic which doesn't mean anything in medical terms. It's like, Oh your pre-diabetic. And I said, well, what does that mean? Oh, what does it really mean? Anything? It just means that like, you're almost diabetic, but your not. So don't worry. And I was like, I'm sorry, I reject this diagnosis. What do you mean prediabetic? So I didn't even know about was, and I marched out at the doctor's office and the doctor's office was in the mall. You always have these like little moments that you were a member of your story. When I was in the mall stewing about this.
Erin Power (5m 25s):
And I was like, what am I know about diabetes? I know it's something that like sedentary, overweight people Get and they have to inject insulin. I knew that. So I went and marched into the bookstore or this predates smartphones. So we didn't have smart phones in my pocket to Google. I went up to the bookstore and I type the word insulin into The the kiosk in a bookstore, or to find a book about insulin or diabetes or something. And I found a book called the last 15 by dr. Joyce Shullman it's not a book about diabetes. It's a, it's a book about metabolism and how insulin is the hormone in our metabolic function.
Erin Power (5m 59s):
And I only knew what Metabolism was from the, from the fitness industry. You know, either had a fast one or a slow one. You wanted to speed years up. If yours was slow and this would speed yours up and this was slow yours down. That's all I knew. But Metabolism, and this book was like, talked about the biochemistry of metabolism. That was really interesting to me, but it taught me how the human body is meant to use fuel, which ultimately is what Metabolism is. And that was the opening of my rabbit hole, which have now been down for 11 years because I'm in my mid forties and I'm aging in reverse.
Erin Power (6m 32s):
I have more energy than a note to do with my body composition does my belly. I had went away just kind of whittled away over time. And it continues things you need to kinda kind of be easy now, a just because I got my body surf back online and I guess, yeah, I guess then the empowering part of this story is that the body is very resilient. And especially when the attack metabolically, like our bodies are amazing machines designed perfectly where as I'm concerned, we kind of, we kinda put the wrong inputs and sometimes we put the wrong inputs in the body trusts us.
Erin Power (7m 9s):
It's like, well, I dunno what this person's doing this. So we're just going over time. The body's system kind of this start to breakdown, but the great news in power of news is it, it will bounce back. It's designed perfectly. If we just change the inputs, we can rebound right back to that. Perfect. Optimal health is really our birthright. Yay.
Lauren G. Foster (7m 28s):
Okay. So the way that you went about it, so what, what was the big change? It was the word. Now it's time to talk about the grains and the industrial oils in the, the really nitty gritty basics of the parental, right?
Erin Power (7m 42s):
Yeah. The prime molest, the ancestral health, paleo, what ever you want to call it? That was M the next sort of part of my rabbit hole, because the first thing I did was understanding metabolic metabolic system. In the first book, I wrote that book for the last 15 talk to a predominantly about Circadian biology. At least that's what I took from it. So there's a sort of a rhythm to the body. That's, that's tuned to the rising in a setting of the son, which sounds wacky, but we're animals. We are part of nature. So that makes sense. So the first thing I did was change the timing of my meals actually.
Erin Power (8m 17s):
And then when I started, I S I started, you know, I was now obsessed with this whole idea of like pre diabetes, insulin resistance. How does this happen to a person like me? And that's when I stumbled across the ancestral paleo primal lifestyle, which at the time was, and still is really leading the charge on tapping back into how the body is meant to take up and use food as fuel. Like, however you designed what's are what's our, a biological evolutionary design. So the first of all, you have to believe in evolution, which I do that helps.
Erin Power (8m 47s):
And also its like, because when I, when I had been doing everything right and still have got sick, that it made me really angry. I'm still, but it to the state, he was like, that's frustrating. I did everything they told me to do and it didn't work. And then I said to myself, how did cave men eat? I just had that thought. I didn't even know that the caveman day it was a thing. And that's when I stumbled across the paleo primal template. So the Vic different, the big elephant that comes in there to your point is if I call it a food quality piece, the food quality piece is what, how I interpret paleo primal.
Erin Power (9m 23s):
A lot of people interpreted as a low insulin producing diet or you know what you can be, but I don't really want to vilify insulin all the time. I don't think that's a good approach, but I do like the food policy piece because here's a deal. If you're a kind of, sort of harming your body a little bit, every time you eat or every day, that's the input you're providing, you're providing an input to your body that says things or bad right now. Oh, we have access to the way we're consuming this food. That's a little bit harmful.
Erin Power (9m 53s):
We are doing it every single day. The body's going to respond in immunogenic plea. So the immune system will respond to that. Anytime you're causing the immune system to respond like you're self harming. Right. And we know what they mean, do you mean, so this is meant to respond. We suffer an illness or an injury, but it's not really meant to respond where eating lunch, you know, that's, that's self-inflicted harm. And that, and that was really wow to me is some of the foods that we just eat consistently all day or every day triggered immune response. It's like, well, why would I do that to myself?
Erin Power (10m 24s):
Lauren G. Foster (10m 25s):
Okay. So tell me the foods that do that, the things that trigger an immune response that keep Your. So did in, in Our in the metabolic reboot, you used an analogy of your autoimmune system as being like a, a rescue fire department or you know, where they're supposed to be hanging out, waiting instead of working all the time. So tell us more about that and how, and, and specifically grains. Right?
Erin Power (10m 53s):
Okay. Yeah. So I love actually let your fire your firefighter preferenced because I was always referring to them as a battalion of soldiers. I like the firefighter will be better because that's probably more real life that people can. I was in the army for a few years. So the soldier thing really resonates, but basically military paramilitary, just imagine your immune system in some system in the body, a system of the body that's designed to protect you. Okay. Designed and it's obedient, super obedient. And it's binary it's either like on or off, it doesn't think it doesn't have in a hot it's like if we get a signal we're going, we're getting right with that.
Erin Power (11m 30s):
If that alarm bell rings on the fire hall, the firetrucks going on, does it matter if its a false alarm we've got to go, right? So that's really cool. We're really lucky. We're very fortunate to have this system in our body that takes care of us like that. That is so responsive. Just soul purposes to take care of us. Wow. So let's talk about grains in this example. So first of all, understand that if he let's say, then you roll your ankle, you injure yourself. The immune systems, like we got an injury, let's go, they get the firetrucks. They go, they go to the side of the injury.
Erin Power (12m 1s):
They start producing inflammatory the flat inflammatory response. And we know the heat, the swelling, the redness, whatever it is, the pain, even, it's all part of the healing process. The body setting us up to get better as quickly as possible, same thing with an illness or you get a fever or you get to whatever lethargy you lie in bed, you get better or whatever. It might be. All of these symptoms that we feel the inflammatory symptoms are designed to encourage healing. So in that context does immune response is a blemish from our spots.
Erin Power (12m 33s):
It's awesome. It's awesome. It's like, yes, it's doing what it's supposed to do. That's the acute expression. It's meant to be the firefighters' go out and fight the fire and to come back to the fire hall and then wait for the next fire. I love you. A firefighter. I'll do it so much better than soldiers. Right?
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Erin Power (12m 49s):
Their waiting for the next car, we want them to be in the firehouse, waiting for the fire and we don't want them to be out there fighting fires every time. Maybe they're looking this way, you know, get it ready. Just but hanging out. I dated a firefighter briefly. They do a lot of that. They'd make supper. They watch TV, whatever, their waiting for fires. So when we eat grains, okay. So I'm going to tell the story from this, from the perspective of wheat and I'm going to, I'm going to use gluten as a scapegoat because its one that everybody knows, but that I'm going to kinda bring it back to all the grain's.
Erin Power (13m 22s):
If that's what I have. I like to tell it. So everybody knows that gluten is this thing that's bad. It was like, Oh gluten-free is a thing. A lot of people think it's fake. Oh this is gluten fad, whatever. But here's the deal. Here's what gluten is. Whenever just as a sidebar, whenever I'm faced with some kind of like health fat or whatever or trending topic, I just wanna get to the, the best out of fast. So like what is this thing? What is human metabolism? How does it work at a chemically? What is gluten? Like? What is it?
Erin Power (13m 52s):
Why are we talking about it? What even is it? So it's a protein inside of the week. Plat now what's its purpose. Why did the We plant evolve with gluten in it? Because plants evolve to, why do we evolve with the thing? It is Luton. People will say, so I'm going to go here. Oh, we'll gluten makes bread dos trick. She was like, sorry. That's not why wheat evolved with gluten med. Doesn't make sense. We invented bread. That's not what we plan. Doesn't give a damn about our brand. Okay? So that's not Why gluten exists or there has to exist in the wheat plant to protect the wheat plant for predators.
Erin Power (14m 29s):
And so every living thing on planet earth has some antioxidation defense. Cat's have claws, horse's have hooves. The plants have chemical compounds in them. Gluten is this chemical compound. When it's consumed by a predator, it just irritates the gut of the predator. It doesn't kill the predator. It's not gonna kill the predator. It is going to irritate the gut enough that the predator's like that doesn't feel I'm not going to eat that anymore. And the plant survived so that the bison will nibble around the wheat plants and then in the field, in that, in the range theoretically I'm and not eat it unless it absolutely has to under some kind of starvation the situation.
Erin Power (15m 5s):
But that's a whole purpose. Like gluten exists in the wheat plant to irritate the guts of predators so that it can survive and thrive. So now we eat this every day, we just eat it every day. We decided we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna domesticate this wild grass. We are going to hybridize it or we're gonna, we're going to make it a fast, cheap and easy commodity crop are going to move it into flour are going to make food dish. Product's out of it because of our population is exploding in the us. We can eat it. You know, it's not inevitable. It's not poisonous outright.
Erin Power (15m 36s):
So these grain based food to become a staples, have our diets.
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Erin Power (15m 42s):
So every single day, like for me, for example, when I was pre-diabetic I, it was eating sandwiches probably twice a day, for sure, for a lunch. Maybe even for supper, they were very healthy sandwiches. Oh my gosh. It would, there are a beautiful sandwiches, amazing homemade squirly bread. Every day though, every day I'm having a little tiny bit of a gut. You're a tint. So my goal was just always irritated. My immune system was always responding to it. Just like what's going on the guts irritated again. Oh, we need to go down. There's a lot of my firefighters will never in the building.
Erin Power (16m 12s):
They're always out fighting fires. Your was the one thing now I didn't feel like I was half. My gut was irritated. I could not feel gut irritation. This is down-regulation. If you do something, you know, if, if you subject your body to something unpleasant, often enough, it downregulates your sensitivity. And that's another miraculous aspect of the human body. I love the human body. It's such elegant technology. It's like, I know what's going out there, but this, he, this animal that keeps eating these harmful grains.
Erin Power (16m 44s):
We're just going to mellow this out for her so she can go on. I can send you out of your life without being sidetracked, quite as obvious assault that's happening every day. So I couldn't feel it. I was, it had downregulated, my sensitivity and the analogy that I have to use is when you walk into a party and somebody is wearing strong perfume, it's a very overpowering, but 20 minutes later, you don't notice it anymore. Then if you were to leave the party and come back, you'd notice it again. That's downregulation upregulation the body is always just like doing that for us so we can deal with stuff.
Erin Power (17m 14s):
So even though I didn't feel like my guts were irritated, which would of been a really handy thing to, Oh, that'd be really handy if I could, if, if I could've known that irritated me, but it didn't know I had down-regulated it so much. I know if I eat weeds, I notice I know this for sure. So, so that the grains, just to kind of circle back then, can I ask you a question? These are immunogenic by design and immunogenic means they cause immune system to respond to them because they just irritate the gut enough to make it kind of alarming to set that alarm off and the fire hall for the immune system.
Erin Power (17m 51s):
And that's, that's undermining our birthright or the homeostatic balance of health that we are born with. Like, it is undermining that where we're, we're, we're inflicting harm on ourselves unwittingly, but, but daily, everyday. And so I look at inflammatory foods like grains or the industrial oils and say, I don't want to harm myself above all else. My body doesn't deserve that have done enough shit to my body. I've honestly treated it like a piece of garbage for many decades when I was obsessed with this and vanity, I'm not going to do that anymore.
Erin Power (18m 26s):
Cause their respect this, I respect this machine. It doesn't deserve that. Plus I want to be bad ass awesomely healthy until I'm 120 years old. So I'm not going to turn into the body and its become like a driving force for me. It makes it very easy for me to make supportive choices because I do my core, do not wish to do harm to my body.
Lauren G. Foster (18m 49s):
Okay. So that the final line under that is that the, all of the grains wheat, especially with the gluten, but all of the grains have anti-nutrients that behave in the same way. And so And, and Aaron will always tell us that your immune system can take a fire every once in a while. So it's not like you have to give up bread for the rest of your life, but if you're doing it everyday, then your immune system for gets what it supposed to be doing in this is where and why we are so plagued with auto immune diseases.
Lauren G. Foster (19m 21s):
One or the reasons that we are are so plugged with that theirs, you know, we do, we have a lot of other really bad habits as a population, you know, excessive sugar and all that stuff too. But the grains is a really big one that is just ingrained in our diet. So now it give us the explanation of how a person becomes insulin resistant because the diabetes is again an epidemic that is not getting any attention at all. I wish that we paid as much attention to diabetes as we due to COVID-19 because it is killing way more people and not going to get on that soap box.
Lauren G. Foster (19m 58s):
But, but I want your illustration of how insulin resistance happens and that's when you become diabetic, right? When your body's insulin resistant.
Erin Power (20m 9s):
Yeah. I mean, so the insulin resistance thing is very nuanced and, and I will tell you one of the pathways that it creates and it created for me, but I do. I just feel like I should, I should add the caveat that I'm, there's a lot of nuance that insulin resistance. I think that the approach, I believe the approach that I take helps most people, but some people might have other biochemical uniquenesses that have triggered insulin resistance for them. So I just don't want to be super black and white about this.
Erin Power (20m 41s):
I just think that the body is really complex, but here's kind of how I articulate it in the context of how I suffer from and how my clients are. The people that I worked with, the people who just like me, who have had the same experience, like everything I was doing was working until it stops working. And then it went, it just like, you know, things go out of hand in my clients. Aren't auto-immune suffers per say, there are just, I call them fat, foggy and fatigued because you are gaining weight in their abdomen, which doesn't make sense, doing everything right there. And they don't normally gain weight in their abdomen with a quick, that's not a place where I'd normally gain weight.
Erin Power (21m 14s):
My body shape. I am, I'm like a, a stick. I don't have any, I'm not curvy. Right. I don't have any, but I was gaining in this big belly and that wasn't right congruent with like how my body would carry weight anyway. So fast, we get foggy brain fog, but the brain doesn't work. It's the whole check out of life feeling that I had, like a, why can't I get my mind into what I'm doing? Why I used to be a really productive, smart person and the fatigue, like just inability to do anything, to stay awake, to get to the gym, to go for a walk.
Erin Power (21m 46s):
It's like, I just can't, I'm just so tired. Right? So those three things, if anybody can resonate with that, then you're probably like me. You probably came you probably insulin resistant. Like I was okay. So here's how it happened. Okay. It was the one is the hormone that responds when fuel is present in the blood. Okay. So we have eaten food. It's broken down into its component, fuel parts. And when the body sense is that there's fuel in the blood insulin deploys at other they're very obedient body system, insulin deploys for the pancreas.
Erin Power (22m 19s):
It, it deploys in kind. So if there's a thousand of them to fuel units, the blood thousand insulin units will deploy to take care up those fuel units, that there is 2000 to 2001. Yep. So depending on the matter we feel that's how much insulin comes out. So insulin in a perfectly functioning system kicks up the fuel and delivers it to the CEL via an insulin receptor. So that kind of docs on the cell insulin releases, if you will, into the cell, the cell takes the fuel and it makes energy out of it.
Erin Power (22m 52s):
That's, that's the most simplistic explanation from a tablet, by the way, Metabolism who is incredibly complex. I'm talking about one tiny part of it. So let's just really be clear what that, so one thing that I think is really interesting is that when we eat food and we experienced hunger in a perfect situation, let's say you're metabolically healthy and you experienced hunger. It's coming from yourselves. Your cells are like, we have run out of, or running out of energy fuel to make energy.
Erin Power (23m 23s):
They says to the brain, could you get this animal to go and get some more fuel? The brain it's like, got you. Trigger is a little, a hunger signal into the stomach. That's where you feel it in the stomach. Nowhere else, just belly. And you would go get fuel. You would consume food. It breaks down into fuel. Insulin takes up the fuel, delivered it to the sale. The cells are like, Oh great. It makes it a energy. And it a perfectly functioning system. The way my body runs, this all happens very quietly behind the scenes. Very quietly. I don't notice it. I notice hunger because you're supposed to notice hunger.
Erin Power (23m 55s):
And I notice it in my belly and it's like, Oh, I'm going to kind of Hungary. You know what? I've had a meeting. And after that I have to run to the store. I think I'll pick up a nice steak. And we look at something, you know, Bean's like, I, when I get hungry, it's not an emergency because it's just, the cells are saying, Hey, whenever you get a minute, we can use some more fuel and I can go and do that. And it's never an emergency. I don't get hungry, but I sure used to. So because that's one of the symptoms of insulin resistance is hangry and grade. As soon as soon as I hear from a client that they can't go without food and lose their minds, they're hunger happens up here.
Erin Power (24m 33s):
It's like, okay, we get to work on your, your insulin sensitivity. That's okay. So in a, in a broken system, the way this kind of works is fuel is now present in the blood because we've eaten food. But mainly because we've been choosing the wrong types of fuels. So there's, I call fuel like, you know, a fast fuel or a slow fuel kind of breakdown like that. If there's a lot of fast fuel in the blood, then like insulin has to respond fast. PLEASE to go get it. Maybe there were just eating too often. Maybe you were eating or not even hungry because our personal trainer told us to eat every two to three hours.
Erin Power (25m 6s):
Now it used to tell people to do that all the time. Don't even worry about you. Shouldn't even like we used to tell people to eat before they were hungry. That was a whole, the whole idea. But then every two to three hours, things eat before you're hungry. So you don't get too hungry. And then if you get to have, you might, my ovaries to do is eat before you're hungry. It's so messed up a hunger signal exist for a reason. Why do we try and micromanage this anyway? Or maybe you're just overeating getting too much. There's a lot of reasons, a lot of reasons why excessive fuel ends up in the blood.
Erin Power (25m 38s):
So well now we've got lots of fuel. So a lot's of insulin shows up in the blood to take it all up. It's the kind of bottom line. And this insulin is talking to the cells and the cells are taking out the fuel. And this is by the way, breaking down over time. This doesn't happen in one day. This happens over time or over time, insulin kind of keeps harassing the cell's like, Hey, I got some fuel for it. I have some more fuel for you. I got fuel. I got fuel at a few on the site. I was like, I don't need it. I didn't ask for a, why are you feeling me? I go, wait. So it locks the door on that insulin receptor.
Erin Power (26m 10s):
It's like insulin is knocking, but the cell, it won't let it in. Insulin is like, no problem, no problem. I'm just going to take this fuel. We are going to go convert it to fast or in the body. You know, we are going to do, we are going to store it on the trunk because that's a nice, easy place to keep it really convenient. Can you just throw it away? And if we keep doing this, if we keep kind of like dumping funeral in the blood and, and as fast fuels, especially then we just kept dumping insulin. And then he keeps harassing the cell is eventually the cell is locked, the doors and throwaway the keys.
Erin Power (26m 41s):
He was like, Nope, no, this is, this is a being harassed by insulin. And I'm really simplifying it so that when you're a quite insular or is this I'm like what? I was insulin resistant. Then I believe I became insulin resistant. Not for eating junk food. Again, it, it was from eating all the time as I was grazing, I was just grazing because that's what I was told to do for gains. Right? Right. So even the healthy food, I was eating chicken breasts, carrots sticks with hummus, whatever rice cakes with peanut butter, all of these healthy foods were bouncing off myself and getting stored as fat bouncing off my, if I can eat that all steam broccoli till the cows came on, bouncing off from myself and start as fat.
Erin Power (27m 24s):
But now I'm like stop starving because my cell, there is nothing getting in there. Now you're hungry, I'm hungry, hungry. So what do you do when you're hungry hangar or you eat more? I am starving. I feel like I'm starving. It's not even more a non creating this caloric surplus, right? So the code that game does come from a clerk, clerk surplus. And that's how I actually gained all of my fat. But my caloric surplus came from being really hungry. And that came from being insular, insulin resistant, having myself locked up because these cells, now that they've locked the door, they're asking for fuel, but the fuel can't get in because the door is locked.
Erin Power (27m 58s):
So what happens is when the fuel can get in, is it your increasing that fat storage you're on your midsection? So the insidious fat game, just like Curry, but to know where this way, and one year on the back, back, back, back to my doctor and said, yo, I gained 30 pounds in one year after a lifetime of being lean. Like, what if that's not normal? I'm you have no energy because the cells don't have the fuel to make it. So there's my, there's my fatigue. And there's my brain fog. And then it's the, hangriness the emergency Hungary, because your cells are like brain.
Erin Power (28m 28s):
We have nothing. You can go get some Skittles are some jelly. Beans are, get a Danish from the bakery. Like your Ew, the cell's are requesting the fast. If you will give us a fast fuel, because it's an emergency. Now that we have nothing to run, if that's where your carbohydrate and sugar cravings and sweets cravings come from when you're prediabetic are insulin resistant is because the cells are asking for sugar. So that's my sort of puppet show that explains it. And I think that when I give this puppet show to a lot of my clients that are like, Oh my gosh, that is exactly my experience.
Erin Power (29m 2s):
I just, I do want to just wrap up by saying that is like an extreme simplification of one aspect of the very vast metabolic mechanisms are the body. And it's, that's not everybody's experience for insulin resistance, but, and I don't want to vilify insulin and I don't want Abilify a carbohydrate. That's why I used very vague terms. Like feudal comes in, it can be protein. It can be fatty can be carbohydrate is the excess. If you will, that causes an excess of insulin. And that causes the cells to become desensitized to insulin, which was a real problem.
Erin Power (29m 34s):
So this brings us back around to when of your basics, which is sob four hunger now. And, and so,
Lauren G. Foster (29m 42s):
So this means, and tell me if I learned correctly that when you're hungry, you eat a meal and, and you, you emphasize protein and you are friendly with fat enough to make your food taste great. And you minimize carbs, which you've already done because you've eliminated grains. So it's like suddenly a very easy and nice relationship with Food. And again, it's not urgent. It's a D did I get all have that? Right?
Erin Power (30m 8s):
You nailed it. I'm so I'm so delighted that, that you learn about it. Oh my gosh. She ain't, you know, cause you know, as far as a coach or as an educator, you're putting this information out there, you're telling your, your kind of trying to explain it to people, hoping that they'll get it. And so it makes me really happy to that. You got there.
Lauren G. Foster (30m 26s):
Okay. I know what I'm a teacher and I love it when people get it. And so, and I want to be a good student, so that it's, it's weird when, all right. So what are the other really, really important things that I heard from you was that I knew I'm like, Oh, well of course this, that we are trying to, we think we're smarter than our bodies. And we're like all of these hacks and all of these O and O and The, if you're thirsty, you're already dehydrated. Like, like, like you're just calling your body an idiot that it, it doesn't know better then to send a thorough signal.
Lauren G. Foster (31m 3s):
Okay. So yes, but not. So, so say I am a person who is addicted to sugar and I have, so I have cravings for sugar. I can't really trust my body at this point because it's just responding to my past inputs. So how do I get to a point where my body knows to ask for what it really needs and not what I've taught it to need. That was a convoluted question, but you know what? I'm on it.
Erin Power (31m 30s):
Okay. I do know. Yeah. So it's interesting. Cause way you phrased that question was so if I'm, if I'm addicted to sugar, cause there's, there's, there's so much nuance. They're right. I have a lot of clients who declared themselves addicted to sugar. And so like metabolically, when you're insulin resistant, it feels like you're addicted to sugar. It's because your sales are requesting that fast to fuel. But then there's a whole like psychological or actual sweet tooth prop like sweets craving problem or issue, which I think is similar, but different issue.
Erin Power (32m 1s):
But for herself, for her body, that's, Creator calling out at the cellular level for sugar because it's like, we're starving. Give us the, the fuel, what you kind of have to do. And you kind of have to deprive the body of that. Plus the body knows how to make this fuel. It needs out of anything, you eat sugars. The easiest sugars would be like the preferential fuel. You maybe we've heard this carbohydrates. The preferential fuel glucose is a preferential fuel preferential doesn't mean best.
Erin Power (32m 33s):
It just means easiest, right? That's the easiest fuel that sells can just tick. Technically when they're not broken, can just stock up sugar go, but the cell's can run on a glucose. That's converted firm, proteins, a protein him. You heard of the glucose, this loss can run on fat via the mitochondria. There's a little machines inside of the cells that convert fat to a usable fuel people who are running sugar and fast fuels their mitochondria kind of go to sleep. It's like, wow, you don't need to worry is going to shut these mitochondria down. Since this human was just eating carbohydrates fast few a while, David and we, we need to fire up and mitochondria will just let them kind of go dormant.
Erin Power (33m 9s):
So we have to re wake up the mitochondria. We have to really wake up these body systems re wake up as even a word. But what I really want to express is that the body knows exactly how to do this, though. It hasn't forgotten. We have to do is provide an input to nudge the body, to then be like, Oh right. Oh yeah. I knew how to convert protein glucose. Oh, right. I don't know how to convert Phat to fuel. I know how to run on keytones. Oh, aye. The body knows how to do all this stuff. We just didn't let it. So we decided to kind of trust us and trusted us when we said you're gonna run on sugar.
Erin Power (33m 40s):
That's how it's going to be. Like, it's like, you're in charge a man, like whenever, you know, so what do you kind of touched on it? A couple of things that I deal with my clients is the very first rule. My first rule is always answer hunger with a meal. And that's more psychological than a metabolic because we've been taught to eat with a clock. We have been taught to eat every two to three hours. Our grades all day long, all this micromanagement around food timing. And we've disconnected from the actual biological hunger mechanism, which is designed to tell us when to eat.
Erin Power (34m 16s):
Just like our thirst mechanism is designed to tell us when to drink and you don't need an app on your phone or at the time you want, okay. Anyways. So that's the first thing. And, and that's a little bit difficult for clients who are insulin resistant. Cause they're always hungry that, that you're hungry. You're hungry. They're like, Erin, I'm always hungry. I'm like, if I answer hunger with a meal, I'm going to be eating meals every time I like I'm going to be in a lot of foods. I'm like, great. Here's eatsimple number two, prioritize protein.
Erin Power (34m 46s):
When you feel hungry, eat protein, try your best. Not to have it be a fast fuel carbohydrate, right? Is the fastest fuel. I don't CARSTAR are not bad. They're not okay. Is that I'm not here to say carbs are bad. I'm never going to say that I'm going to Quito a coach, but there are fast. And the fastest is so the fuel is part of the problem for an insulin resistant person. So I'm saying, give your body a slow fuel and teach it to convert that slow fuel, because it will be like, well, this is how we got, she gave us a hamburger, Patty, we were craving a Danish.
Erin Power (35m 19s):
Then she gave us a steak or something. Right. I guess we better work with this. And it will, it will bring the gluconeogenesis system back up online. It will wake up that mitochondria say, wake up. We got to convert this fact to fuel the body. We'll do it. We'll then do it immediately know it takes a few days. Sometimes gonna take up to two weeks' that's the whole carb flu Quito flu thing that people will experience where they know their energies seems to tank, but you got to kind of muscle through it when you get to the other side of it. Oh, Oh my gosh.
Erin Power (35m 49s):
You're liberated. It's liberating to not feel so just hangry emergency hungrier at a time over time. When you practice this enough, you get really good at it. You get good at what you practice over time. Ah, the body is like, don't worry. You know what? Your busy, you know what? You're so busy. Don't work. I'm just going to go ahead and mobilize some feel from storage. That's your fat. I'm going to go head and mobilize this, or I can feed the cell's air in your busy. You can do don't work. Hunger quietens because of the body is kind of, even when you do experience a hunger, if you can't feed it right away, it's not a big deal.
Erin Power (36m 24s):
How your body's like, don't worry, whatever you get around to it. It's starting to figure out how to fuel itself, which is how we're designed to. Do you think in the terms of evolution, we had many periods of food scarcity. How would we be here today? If we had to eat every two to three hours, by the way, how will we be here today? If we had to drink half your body, weight and ounces of water or a day, because we didn't even have assets that much. What we got to, when I think about the, this from the trenches, the evolution, everything just clarifies from me. And that's just my own personal sort of like, aha, that's not everybody's thing.
Erin Power (36m 55s):
But for me it's like, I'm an animal. I'm an animal. Just like my horses are animals. My horses do not need me to micromanage their feeding. They will eat grass. They will drink water. They take care of themselves. They're not obese. They don't have diabetes. And our heart disease. They're really healthy. We're animals too, with our biologically appropriate diet. Anyway, so this diet, there's food, timing, Food relationship. It's a very messed up culturally because we've been taught to micromanage feeding. And so one of my big crusades is like, stop micromanaging it, trust, trust, learn to list and love and trust that your bodies apically elegant machine.
Erin Power (37m 30s):
It knows exactly what needs. If you can kind of get out of its way, you will be amazed how easy Food what his, you know, like our relationship with food is so tumultuous right now anyway. Okay.
Lauren G. Foster (37m 42s):
It was brilliant, full of full of guilt and full of angst and anxiety. Oh, and, and, and, you know, I had been this way, my entire life. I drive my family crazy with all of the different diets that I would be on and I can't have this not getting done. And I'm very much enjoyed seeing that these last, you know, 10 years of my life, when I've been, when I've learned that my body knows what, what it wants and that good, healthy food can be absolutely delicious.
Lauren G. Foster (38m 12s):
And so our relationship with our bodies and our relationship with food that that's that this is my, my forte. This is where I teach that. And I can so picture this, re-educating your body to ask for what it really needs, not just what you've taught it to think that it needs can be just really like a making up with then, you know what, I'm sorry, I've been bossing you around these years, but now we're gonna work together and we're gonna, we are going to bring, they'd start to understand that the, I hope you have to give us the campfire analogy for the slow burning and the fast burning fuel.
Erin Power (38m 50s):
Yeah. Well, the first of all, just love. I love that you are our teaching this as well. And, and because I'm like the idea of just respecting, like Listen where we were like, we're kinda the pilots of the body. And we, we, we drive to the body, we're in charge of the inputs and the body trusts us when we micromanage those inputs. It's very trusting. And so we can just kind of quiet and listen to the body is actually asking and provide the inputs is asking for that because comes in a really beautiful relationship.
Erin Power (39m 21s):
And that's how we're a design. So the camper analogy. Yeah. I apologize. I apologize with my, I think my Internet's having a moment, so I apologize if I'm getting in there.
Lauren G. Foster (39m 33s):
Okay, good. Okay. We're ready for the campfire analogy. I love that. I'm just, I'm just going to keep this video and keep referring people to it. I will go listen to this part of this.
Erin Power (39m 46s):
LG is a new one for me that had borrowed from somewhere. I know I've heard, I heard it before and I liked it because they'd LG. I had created a, had been using was gasoline versus battery. So this has to talk about fuel types because I don't want to vilify any time any, any, any, I want to build a fight, a fuel, but I want to just differentiate. Right? So in the olden days, I would talk about batteries versus gasoline. And my thinking was batteries like sell batteries, like flashlight batteries. Right? But for me, I was thinking about like the microphone that I wear to teach fitness classes runs on a battery pack.
Erin Power (40m 20s):
And at the battery pack with the battery dies, I have to now shout. And I don't want to do that. I went over my microphone. Right. So sell batteries. But now we have, you know, our telephone. We are, we think about battery. As you think about her cell phone, then it's like, well, I could just plug it in. Its not a big deal with yeah. So the battery is a gasoline analogy kind of changed for you over the years. It doesn't really land, but the campfire went down. So just to kind of close loop on that, gasoline is a slow burning, reliable fuel. You fill the tank, you draw from the tank, you draw from the tank, you dropped from the tank, the needle slowly moves.
Erin Power (40m 53s):
You can see that the needle is going toward East. So you feel the tank back up. You never really run out because you're always just about up to the gas station, filling the tank. That's your slow fuel. That for me is protein of that predominantly and high fiber fruits and veggies will also be enough in the gasoline, in a category that our fast fuel's a portable fast, cheap, easy batteries sell batteries. That's Your fast burning, starchy carbohydrates. Cause are grain-based junkie curves. Like they're fast. They deliver sugar into the bloodstream quickly.
Erin Power (41m 24s):
It's like, boom, there's your fuel. But then it's gone. Like it, it is not reliable. The battery's die. They die. Then your looking for more batteries. Right. So that was the battery definitely in analogy. Right? So the campfire analogy that now I'm gravitating toward, Oh, I still like, I still like in the batteries in gasoline. Right?
Lauren G. Foster (41m 41s):
What do you think gets is a good one too?
Erin Power (41m 44s):
Yeah, the there's two campfires. Okay. So you're up camping. It's chili, maybe it's fall or spring. Camping is called. Do you need to, you need to fire us to keep you warm, right? So you have the choice of two fires. The first fire is made with tiny little sticks, twigs newspaper, a little bits of garbage and dried leaves that you just kind of scramble up and rake it all up into a pile and you let it on fire and it burns. And then it starts to stop cert the burns quickly in that it's like, Oh, we got to get some more STIX.
Erin Power (42m 14s):
It's more newspaper or more leads. Or you just kinda always tending to this flyer because it, it earns and dies and burns and die so quickly. There was nothing there to establish a flame. You got to keep feeding it, feeding it, feeding, feeding it. So that kind of in flux the fire, it's like kind of a pain in the, but if you want to really stay warmer on that fire, you're gonna have to work all night long to keep it going. The other fire has made out of giant Birch logs. So you put the Burch log on the fire that burns for hours, put out a lot of heat. You can sit around that fire and relax and tell stories and love.
Erin Power (42m 44s):
Look around. I love life, enjoy life every now and then you got to get up and throw another Birch log on the fire. But you're doing this every once in a while. And the fire does a die. The fire's still worn because Birch Birch with Rose a lot to heat. This is why I chose a verse physically. It's a very good fire. There was a lot of heat. So you're still getting warm from the fire. Do you just go and fetch it on the blog and put it on their and the firewalls or to take it up and then use that virtual it when it needs too. And so you get to just sort of enjoy life rather than how to tend to a fussy little Sparky fire.
Erin Power (43m 17s):
Lauren G. Foster (43m 18s):
That is. And the guys that this is such a beautiful way to live, where, you know, you, you have two or three meals a day, sometimes two, sometimes three Some, you know, according to your activity, according to how you feel, according to what your body wants. And you're suddenly your life doesn't revolve around food. If you're going to be traveling and you're not, he had don't have access to anything. That's good. You're like fine. Your body knows how to go and get it from you're. But you know, the skinniest person in the world and still has many, many, many, many, many meals stored on their body in the form of that, which is to me, it just, it makes perfect sense that that's what our body wants to use because that's how we store it.
Lauren G. Foster (44m 4s):
That's you know, how it was designed and do it, just that feeling of not being, just being friendly with your food and friendly with your body instead of at the mercy, or, you know, beating up on your body where being a slave to food and tethered to your kitchen, tethered to the cooler in your car. So
Erin Power (44m 22s):
Yeah. Well, I, you know, I loved that. You said it it's like if I use this front brain back brain analogy, apparently there's a lot of analogies, but the front bring it back brain, which is just, it's just a theoretical is not any kind of, of neurobiology here in the front of your brain. Like for three decades, the firmest, the thing that in the front of my brain was eating, exercising, getting leaner. How can I look better? How could it might? How could I micromanage my body more?
Erin Power (44m 53s):
And that's why I said at the beginning, I have a lot of regret because my hope, my twenties, my teens, twenties and thirties, teens, twenties, and thirties, it's like the prime of my life was wasted with that in the front brain didn't have any fun. So, so singularly fixated on that stuff and feeding and remaining alive is back brain lizard, brain survival mechanism stuff. What should be up here is all the joy, experiential stuff, education, learning, growth, love, joy, passion, you know, observations or of the world around you.
Erin Power (45m 31s):
And for me personally, I, I, I have a ton of regret that I occupied the front of my mind, but the stupid stuff, right.
Lauren G. Foster (45m 41s):
Set up. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to coach you through that real quick. Erin because if every, everything that you experienced up until now may do you who you are and who you are now is having a giant impact in the world. And you know, that that wasn't wasted and absolutely wasn't wasted. Your your joy and passionate moving forward. Are you going to be magnified AZ as a result of being able to look back and compare to those other times? And we thank you. And we, we thank 25 year old Erin for everything that she went through in order to be such a great teacher to us.
Lauren G. Foster (46m 14s):
So you don't waste your time with right now.
Erin Power (46m 16s):
Okay, great. Thank you for them. That's a good point. I'll have to remind myself, I'm going to look to be 120. So I still have like 80 years ahead of me. So I'm good.
Lauren G. Foster (46m 27s):
We know. And if you have not had that intensity two, all of those wrong things, then you would, if you just lived out at your whole life being mediocre, now you are just as intense and passionate in the other direction. I just, I just don't think you could've ever been mediocre and just kind of coast along your just, that's just not who you are.
Erin Power (46m 46s):
Lauren G. Foster (46m 49s):
So if you have a lot, lots and lots and lots of years to bring all of this question to all of us. Right. All right.
Erin Power (46m 55s):
Okay. Yeah, you go. It was gonna say you, you articulated it well, when you describe to how, you know, you can go for your life without overly thinking about what to eat or when to your Why to eat. And do you use a good example of like, if you're traveling or if you don't have access two, you know, you're a perfect kitchen and food that's OK. Because your body will take care of it. So like, I think there's, that's really interesting to people who are very busy. And if you can imagine, like you have a work, a work schedule, that's a very busy year meetings all day. So your like, Oh, I don't, I don't have time to eat well.
Erin Power (47m 25s):
Or M I do a lot of traveling back when that was the thing that we could do for work. And it's like, if you teach your body to tap its own the store fuel, and to your point, even a lean person has tens of thousands of calories stored on their body and fat. Then its like, you don't really have to eat. Sometimes this is where the whole fasting and ketosis stuff comes in and kind of next level metabolic stuff. I like the ability to be able to just kind of ignore a hunger if you have To is cool and you really need to tap ketones in a period of food scarcity, have your body and brain run completely cleanly and effortless, effortlessly, perfectly healthfully, by the way, I'm on ketones and fat.
Erin Power (48m 5s):
It means that you don't have to have your cooler full of Tupperware containers with the, for where you go. You can, you can have, and we evolved to thrive in periods of food scarcity. And that's kind of an, a neat kind of a neat tool to have in your tool kit and in another neat tools have in your tool kit. And I love that you touched on this is that our body can store fat. Like here's a reframe for you. How amazing is that? Oh my God, our body is designed to infinitely store fuel on it.
Erin Power (48m 36s):
That's an amazing, so that fat that we all hate it, it's actually such a miraculous adaptation as a human body. Like, okay,
Lauren G. Foster (48m 45s):
This is another phrase. It just popped into my mind that I want you to explain and expound upon is metabolic flexibility. Meaning that if you know your body can burn sugar, it can burn carbs. It can burn, it can burn how to convert protein. It can ketones, it can, and it can fluidly go back and forth among those and that. So I guess that so can, can you say a better, so say more,
Erin Power (49m 13s):
You said at grade, but one thing that I think one of the interesting things about metabolic flexibility, we're hearing people talk about this a lot. Its kind of a trending topic. I think it's awesome. It's the whole idea is like your body knows how to use a lot of different fuels. There's a lot of fuels available to us. There's all of the fuel that we eat on our plate. So there's the carbohydrate, the fat and the protein that's on our plate. The body can mobilize any of those into fuel. Any of them provide you're being preferential. It, it doesn't mean better. It just faster. Then we have all the stored fuels. So we have glycogens is stored glucose and our muscles and, and our liver.
Erin Power (49m 45s):
There is a few but 2000 calories for the glycogen in the body. If the body needs some fast fuel, it can just liberate that if the body can run and slow, you know, depending on what kind of activity are doing, that's where the body decides what kind of fuel it needs like, Oh we need some vascular are going to move like a general, Oh we can do slow field. We are going to convert a protein to a glucose by Apple kind of Genesis are going to burn fat and ketones ketones are a byproduct of mobilizing fat. So we have a free fuel, which is stuff that we've eaten.
Erin Power (50m 16s):
And we have our stored fuel, which is stuff that stuck on our body. But here's the deal. One thing that I think is really important, maybe this is maybe too nuanced, but we talk about having everything in an can be mobilized into the fuel basically. So one thing that made here a lot in a sort of more depravation or a diet culture kind of language is that if you get into starvation mode, your body will catabolize muscle because it can convert protein to glucose, right?
Erin Power (50m 46s):
We don't want to lose muscle. Muscle is incredibly expensive. Important. The, that the last thing of the last thing that bottom has to do is mobilize muscle and break down the muscle in a metabolically inflexible body that might happen. The body will say this animal's not eating carbohydrates. We're gonna just go burn down muscle muscle and for her to do sugar, but in a metabolically flexible body, that's like a last case scenario. The body will go through Free fuel. It will go through play, but you need to go through fatty, acids it to go through ketones.
Erin Power (51m 17s):
And we go through all of those things before its like there's nothing left. We were going to go to muscle. That's like, if you are looking at literally starving on a desert Island, that's a really amazing things. What are the metabolic flexibility approaches? It's a muscle sparing. If it does not give to have less muscle. And a lot of my clients have said that to me, you say on you're on your fat loss program. I lost weight and I've lost weight before, but my eyes, my body looks different than it ever did before. And for me that's because we went on a really meticulous seek and destroy the mission for like stored fat, the bad fat, like the, the subcutaneous, the visceral fat as well.
Erin Power (51m 52s):
Right? And we'll be spared Russell. We spared mussels. So you still have on your muscle. You know, you, your bone density are still good. Even from my female clients, they'll see my booth didn't go away. Its like that's cause that's the essential fat we don't, we didn't, we didn't try at the essential is that we targeted this, the extra fat. So like we lose it from our midsection. We, we don't want is we don't want it on our app. And we were losing it from your arm, pit fat and your bra at or whatever. And it's really hard, but sparing it's a it's, it's sparing all this stuff that we want to keep all that essential fat that women need.
Erin Power (52m 27s):
So our lady, we need some that in your body, it's a very muscle for sure, because muscle is gold. It's a really interesting it. Metabolic flexibility, metabolic flexibility have so many winds. One of them is your body has always able to tap for you and you don't have to micromanage it. The other is it, it spares the tissue that you want to keep. There's a lot of benefits to it. It's, it's pretty cool
Lauren G. Foster (52m 48s):
As well as, as I told you, we could talk forever and ever, and ever. And your like my favorite person to talk to about these things. But I want to make sure that we don't forget to talk about your favorite subject of sleep. I am also a sleep gate asleep nerd. And I just really, as you know, I'm going to be 55 next month. And so I'd have the, the hormone changes and do you know the hot flashes and the sleep and the, and whenever my sleep first started to get disrupted, I'm just like, this is, this is like so important to me is not acceptable.
Lauren G. Foster (53m 24s):
So I I'm doing solving for sleep in every way possible. But explain from Your more educated in a scientific viewpoint. Why sleep is the second most important part of our health next week?
Erin Power (53m 40s):
It is the second most important thing after food for me. So if I had a list of what I thought was important, it, it would be food and you sleep. There is something like relaxing and rest and play and movement. And then like exercise would be way down the list, which is a real paradigm shift for me and for a lot of people. But so I think for me, the reason why I sleep is second as many there's many reasons. First of all, we just know, we just know at a scientific level of this stuff is an enormous body of research that suggests that then under slept body is just incapable of being achieving that baseline homeostatic level of health.
Erin Power (54m 17s):
That's our birth, right? And so if you don't have that baseline, how many aesthetic level have health? We can't have metabolic health. Like the tone we have static is the foundation. We list our metabolic health over the top. And if you don't have this part or any aspect of wellness is not going to initiate, it is not going to, it is not gonna work for you. And so if you can imagine somebody who's more into like performance, which I'm not into, but it might be athletic performance. Same thing. If you don't have this foundational baseline, your, your performance is going to suffer. Whatever you're laying over top a fertility of whatever it might be, right heeling from autoimmunity. This is so your foundation and sleep impact's this foundation.
Erin Power (54m 50s):
We can have it with a restful sleep. The other part, but I like about sleep is that it is beautiful. It's like we're resting the body. We're repairing the body. We're recovering the body. The body is going through its cleaning processes and, and, and, you know, processing are thoughts and processing nutrients. And it's, it's, it's, it's part of like wellness. It, at least for my perspective and the fitness industry is overlooked in fitness industry. We were always focused on doing, doing, doing, doing the work, a crushing sling, get it, go get crush your goals.
Erin Power (55m 25s):
And we're never focused on the flip side of that, which is, and then just like, get it all. You have to let it out and assimilate by resting and sleeping. So there's something like spiritually important. They're like connecting to the gentleness of sleep and a necessity of that gentleness at Paris. It's like the sympathetic parasympathetic nervous system. We were always so honored are always so honest. It's a hustle culture that we forget that our sympathetic nervous system can't have fun. Let us, we flipped through the parasympathetic.
Erin Power (55m 57s):
Once in awhile, we have to have this sort of like toggling. Right. And that's one of the reasons why I fell asleep. I mean, we know by a chemical, a biologically, its important to, you know, what I study research, but also a spiritually important, you know, quiet. And so yeah,
Lauren G. Foster (56m 14s):
It is it come from it from a spiritual standpoint, your, your momentum, your resistance stops. You get to start fresh every morning that now let me ask this is due to different people require different amounts of sleep is the, like you said, in our culture, there's so many people or there were so proud of that, Oh, I only sleep four hours at night. I'm like, Hmm. Like, yeah. So are there people who can do just as well with, for hours of sleep or, or is that just a cultural thing?
Erin Power (56m 44s):
That's what I mean, they're probably is. I would say if I was putting all my realistic hat, let's be realistic. Probably we're all, there's a lot of bio individ jolly out there and who knows. But what I've read is that most humans are designed to have about eight hours of sleep. I like this goes back to Circadian biology, which kind of started talking about like, we are tuned to the rising and sending of the sun now, depending on where you live in terms of, you know, whatever that is through your, in for example, where I lived for currently, we have 15 hours a day Lite and what, what over the seven hours on a dark, it's a, it's a crazy, we had a very long summer days.
Erin Power (57m 26s):
The winter is the complete opposite. But if you'd imagine like in a perfect ratio, we have about 12 hours, it is about, about 12 hours a night. That'd be the most perfectly equatorial ratio. We, we kind of have to be a little bit, sort of fudge it a little bit for putting on really live. But regardless of whether you think you need eight hours of four hours or 12 hours body, the body starts producing sleep chemicals after a certain number of wakefulness hours and whether, or if you're paying attention to them, you might know, you know what they are paying attention to them or not. I think a lot of people are like, I don't like to go to sleep.
Erin Power (57m 59s):
I can't sleep until midnight or I can't get to sleep before the, before and then in the morning, but they could, if they were paying attention to these rhythms, we're just not paying attention to really have to pay attention to the TV. We're paying attention to our screens. We are not paying attention to our circadian rhythm. But the fact that means like when the son comes up a week, it triggers the release of serotonin, which was the wakefulness hormone. And then a clock starts, ticking is the circadian clock starts ticking. And then toward the end of the day, now the sun has moved across the sky and is kind of beginning to set.
Erin Power (58m 30s):
Maybe its not being set for several hours, regardless. Melatonin starts to right. That's your that's for sleeping hormone. And it does. It just does know if you provide any quotes that shunt melatonin production, then yet you're gonna stay awake really late. Or if you're eating late or if you're looking at blue screens, whatever you're doing Sean to your melatonin production, or if you're going to have a hard time going to sleep before midnight and you're going to say, Oh, I'm just to kind of person that only needs six hours of sleep. But your mom was trying to get you to go to bed. You just shut it down. That's like a, like our circadian rhythms, our pretty much pretty consistent across the animal, the human, the human animal, I guess what are we a genus species?
Erin Power (59m 11s):
What are we can, yeah,
Lauren G. Foster (59m 14s):
We have sapiens veterano okay. So it's like, yeah. I wonder if a way to, I always wished that I could just like, Reset back to the beginning, take out the caffeine, take out the bad habits, take out the, you know, limiting beliefs and then, and just see what, what your body does. The, I don't know where that came from there, but that's not really a question,
Erin Power (59m 42s):
But, but I like, I like the spirit behind it. It's like, well I wish I could get back to nature. I wish I could pretend that was a little animal living in the wild and what would my life be like if I was Free of all the trappings that distract from my natural biochemical processes. And that, that would be amazing.
Lauren G. Foster (59m 58s):
I think that that actually So I and I go to sleep when I want to get asleep, which is usually between nine and 10. And I wake up whenever I wake up, which is great usually between, so I'd I have actually done this for myself. I'm actually thinking of like, you know, I have quite a few loved ones who are self-proclaimed night hours and they just, you know, they'll sometimes stay up all night and these are not people who are in the greatest health. And so again, I just like, I won, I want to convince people to honor their bodies and to honor their health and, and create an earth suit, create with your earth seat and keep it around for a long time.
Lauren G. Foster (1h 0m 39s):
Feeling good. No. All right. Cool. Well, we are wow. It's 1229. I can't believe that we've we have gone on a whole Our. Is there anything that you want to add that we didn't cover that we that's just really, really important.
Erin Power (1h 0m 58s):
We heard it all. We covered all my favorite things to talk about, but I guess if I was going to leave with a parting, a common to, it would be like, Mmm, if you, if anybody is spent their life just on the recent parts of their life, hating or disliking their body or being angry, their body, just to understand your body is actually amazing. It's trying to protect you. It's doing what you're asking it to do. And if you'd like it, if you'd like to change the way your body is showing up in the world, then you get to change the inputs you get to like, that's your opportunity. It's empowering. You're in charge of that part. So I think just feel empowered by the fact that you're responsible for the inputs that in your body will respond to whatever you provide.
Erin Power (1h 1m 34s):
So if you want something to change are gonna have to change something.
Lauren G. Foster (1h 1m 37s):
Yeah. You gotta give a different input, give it a good day, give it a good blood or give us a good thoughts. Give it a LOVE awesome. Okay. So we are going to put the links to Aaron's next reboot, which starts on September 1st, right? Yeah. And it's 30 days, right?
Erin Power (1h 1m 55s):
We do. That is yet to happen.
Lauren G. Foster (1h 1m 57s):
Yeah. And she, she is live with you every single day and there's a new little step everyday and it's an awesome community and its a incredibly reasonable price to go and get an idea and, and get yourself started. And there's, she's got her eight weeks to simple program. She has one on one coaching. I'm going to provide all the links in the comments to you're listening to this or watching this just look below and we'll provide links to all of this of that. You can get to Erin and thank you so much for being here with us.
Lauren G. Foster (1h 2m 30s):
I'm just, just so grateful and honored to have gotten, to spend this valuable time with you. It was fun. Thank you so much. Awesome. All right. I'm going to be back next week with more great guest. In the meantime, remember, happiness is a choice you can always choose to be happy first. See you next week.
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